<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567</id><updated>2011-11-12T18:50:42.852+05:30</updated><category term='vedic mantras'/><category term='computer related illness'/><category term='here and now'/><category term='Prana'/><category term='consciousness'/><category term='karma'/><category term='Free Will'/><category term='identification'/><category term='self'/><category term='sustaining happiness'/><category term='lifestyle diseases'/><category term='goal'/><category term='freedom'/><category term='Humans and God'/><category term='meditation'/><category term='true nature'/><category term='truth'/><category term='present moment'/><category term='existence'/><category term='destination'/><category term='balancing'/><category term='lifestyle for knowing truth'/><category term='religions'/><category term='unhappiness'/><category term='seeker'/><category term='pranic energy'/><category term='game of life'/><category term='focus'/><category term='mindfullness'/><category term='spiritual techniques'/><category term='lifestyle issues'/><category term='achievements'/><category term='The secret'/><category term='enlightenment'/><category term='Master Akshara'/><category term='stress'/><category term='living master'/><category term='Nirguna Swami Akshara'/><category term='shiva'/><category term='Pathless Path'/><category term='ego'/><category term='spirituality'/><category term='destiny'/><category term='awareness'/><category term='tai chi'/><category term='awakening'/><category term='vital air'/><category term='carpal tunnel'/><category term='fragmented mind'/><category term='discipline'/><category term='comfort zone'/><category term='god'/><category term='busy'/><category term='meditation and mindfullness'/><category term='controlling life'/><category term='humanity'/><category term='seeking'/><category term='doer'/><category term='Swami Akshara'/><title type='text'>Towards Unknown</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>13</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-2624778318157241731</id><published>2010-11-07T11:50:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2010-11-07T11:50:48.381+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unhappiness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sustaining happiness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nirguna Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='busy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humanity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='identification'/><title type='text'>Why Unhappiness?</title><content type='html'>&lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt; Swamiji over a period of time, life for most of us becomes very busy with professional and personal aspects. And even in that personal time, we have to balance the remainin little time with relatives. I think all of that makes us identify with millions of people who go through these daily chores.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;Not enough. One should be able to be part of the 6.5 billion people on earth..I mean identification with entire humanity than just few millions.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt; hmmm...I think sometimes we think in broader terms(means identification with others, even strangers) but most of the times it is selfish... Is that the source of general unhappiness among people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;It's always going to leave one unhappy. To be selfish can tickle one's sense of happiness for awhile but never sustain it.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-2624778318157241731?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/2624778318157241731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-unhappiness.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/2624778318157241731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/2624778318157241731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-unhappiness.html' title='Why Unhappiness?'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-8725604399327680153</id><published>2010-10-22T13:38:00.005+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-22T18:47:16.161+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='here and now'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual techniques'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fragmented mind'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awareness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='meditation'/><title type='text'>Is Awareness a Technique?</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: Namaste Swami ji&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Namaste Puneet! Anything you wanted to say Puneet?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: Just now i was reading your blog on "&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://swamiakshara.blogspot.com/search/label/Laya%20and%20Mediation"&gt;Laya&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;" and it looked like a continuance of our previous discussion.The topic on dynamic  consciousness is beautiful...but i have to say here that it is extremely  difficult for me to be in the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there a technique which could be helpful even further...The  inner fear, worries about self and knowns etc... strike and mind goes  for a journey (many times repetitive)... yesterday i tried to say...come  back, here etc...it did help but only momentarily..Usually the mind wanders....&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Do you want the mind to come stick to the present  moment once and for all ? Or allow it to familiarize itself to the  terrain of the moment and gradually settle itself in there?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: Swami ji, I will try to explain the things in more detail...I&amp;nbsp; think I have started to understand the subtle difference in "self"  and "mind". Sometimes my "self" or intention itself is weak, it enjoys  the roaming of mind and does not want it to settle&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Yes, when the steady SELF and the drifting MIND are  identified with their clear differences in definition and function, then its easier to "settle down" ...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: I am not sure if i do understand properly but i think i get  the difference... i have lesser identification with mind now. but sometimes my self allows it a free rein, many a times on  purpose...something to make identification with the self  strengthened...maybe might help me progress&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;You are still likely to believe that a technique is more powerful or helpful than AWARENESS.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #e06666;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;But the technique is to be AWARE when the mind drifts - simple&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;More and more awareness about&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; - How the mind drifts&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; - When it drifts&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Then you would find the mind to settle down itself. If you wish to call it a technique, then its ok !But I would not put AWARENESS in to a technique category !&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;me&lt;/b&gt;: I will call it an understanding. Swmiji, I think in past  when the mind drifts, I started to identify completely with it and that's  when i lost the awareness...that is what I was calling as weak self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Swamiji, is this non-identification with mind and being Aware of it's drifting a right understanding NOW.&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Non - identification is not needed.You can identify BUT also be aware of its dynamism and your identification.If you don't identify with the mind then you may not be able to perform well in the world. Mind is the essential tool for you to function. Non-identification can cause self divide...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-8725604399327680153?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/8725604399327680153/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-awareness-technique.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/8725604399327680153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/8725604399327680153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-awareness-technique.html' title='Is Awareness a Technique?'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-4210842380051495380</id><published>2010-01-16T12:38:00.018+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-13T23:35:32.447+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nirguna Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mindfullness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='here and now'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Master Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The secret'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='focus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='present moment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fragmented mind'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='meditation and mindfullness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><title type='text'>Meditation and Mindfulness</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Swami ji, what was the topic discussed by you in last session&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;Meditation and Mindfulness&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; What is Mindfulness....infact i do not know Mind either&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;When thoughts occur unconnected each other the mind appear in fragments. Thats a divided mind.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;But when you discovered the thread that connects all the seemingly unconnected thoughts, then suddenly the mind is not more fragmented but is complete and full.... and that is Mindfullness.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; It seems to me that the state of mindfullness would lead to a state of concentration without effort.... as connected thoughts would automatically work towards a direction..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;EXACTLY ! Well said. Its a focus without focus. Anything and everything &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;is under focus..Mind may drift still but no more a "lost" mind but its a total mind with total freedom to drift and still STAY FOCUSSED.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; From this discussion, I just remember a famous book which few recommended..."The Secret" which is loosely based upon 'law of attraction' means your thoughts attract your destiny...I&amp;nbsp;could not finish the book as&amp;nbsp;I could not connect it with my understanding....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But again there was this thing that many people pray and sometimes prayers seem to work, it could be thoughts focussed on something....so i was confused about this concept as presented in "The Secret"&lt;br /&gt;From what i have understoof from you on being and acting in present, the concept of thinking and focussing strongly on a future desire(As presented in&amp;nbsp;the book)&amp;nbsp;looked unconnected. Hence, this confusion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;The book perhaps is playing along with the delusions of human mind. To project, to expect, to wish, to dream, to want, to need, to demand, to fantasise, to imagine, something which does not belong to this moment but about a golden future. This would break the mind in bits and pieces.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Parts of&amp;nbsp;mind wishing something other than WHAT IT IS NOW. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;The divide between who YOU ARE ACTUALLY NOW and WHO YOU WOULD WANT TO BE IN FUTURE TIMES causes the fragmentation of mind and such a mind is in deep trouble.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Only the SECRET is known as just plain HUMBUG.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I think&amp;nbsp;now I&amp;nbsp;understand why&amp;nbsp;I felt such a difficulty in finishing off a small and costly book....But irrespective of the book, mind is usually acting fragmented with rare moments of focus which again is normally due to deadlines.... Infact, when kept busy in those deadlines...mind wantes free time and plans creative activities which do not get fulfilled when "free time" is available.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Because with deadlines around the mind learn the knack of regimenting recreation and work. It divides non stop for every single activity. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;But when mind is not divided the play and work are not divided too. They happen always together as if you work in a holiday mood and even on a holiday you are inspired to work...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there are no concrete funfilled moments no particular occasions to remember and relish because the whole life is just that way - and you never point some moments out of them as special.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I can understand and appreciate the journey of 'mindfullness' .&amp;nbsp;Is there any&amp;nbsp;'Secret' towards it...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Minfullness is not a goal to reach. Not an objective idea, that you look for secrets to reach there. But its WHAT YOU ARE and the SECRET wishful mind has covered WHAT YOU ARE and has wrapped you with ideas about WHAT YOU SHOULD BECOME. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you let go those ideas about what you should become but just remain and BE as you are in the moment of this eternal NOW then its as if you "reached" but its NO jOURNEY its only shedding or renouncing some ideas that linger and eclipse the True NATURE OF YOUR SELF.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;So, it's like being in the present moment automatically brings mindfullness.....something like when i am in present....my intellect governs thoughts...am i understanding it right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;When you are in the moment then the mind comes to direct alignment with the SELF as if they became one and same and not two entities...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;Swami ji, i have understood it. The eclipse is clearing... Namaste!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yes Puneet ! Go ahead....laters again..namaste !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-4210842380051495380?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/Meditation_and_Mindfulness' title='Meditation and Mindfulness'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/4210842380051495380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/01/me-swami-ji-what-was-topic-discussed-by.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/4210842380051495380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/4210842380051495380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2010/01/me-swami-ji-what-was-topic-discussed-by.html' title='Meditation and Mindfulness'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-3334660140623580624</id><published>2009-12-14T17:13:00.015+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:16:14.565+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lifestyle issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='carpal tunnel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='computer related illness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stress'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lifestyle diseases'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><title type='text'>Managing lifestyle Pains and Stress</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Namaste Swami ji! I want to discuss a non-spiritual issue today. Many in my professional field face&lt;br /&gt;the issue of pains related to work...and few have been contemplating a break to concentrate on health aspects....philosophically it does not look ideal to me as it should be more of lifestyle change everyday...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Spiritual Issues&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;2. Issues seen from a spiritual standpoint&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;There is nothing which can be separated from spiritual sense&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Agreed....but my hesitation in asking this is because i understand that&amp;nbsp;a master&amp;nbsp;should not be&amp;nbsp;expected to&amp;nbsp;provide answers for&amp;nbsp;lifestyle issues of people...many people feel that&amp;nbsp;only way out for longevity in this career is change in lifestyle...... That's why they contemplate a break to enforce change...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;BREAKS ARE USUALLY good for stressed mind, the physical realm may have a break from punching a key but will continue on something else..What is required is a simple&amp;nbsp;change of focus.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;If you talk about lifestyle with reference to punching keys and looking into monitor screen, then I think I am at it much longer than most software guys..just that im not paid for it..but then im quite fine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; :-) Yes that is the lifestyle i am mentioning....which invariably brings in some nagging stuff in hands, shoulder, neck and back etc....so how do you manage to be fine physically...any particular nuance which we may adapt&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;:) I think I&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Enjoy my work&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. Don't consider it a work&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. Have the right to reject work which I am not upto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. Change the nature of work&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;5. Listen to music while&amp;nbsp;I work&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;6. Take a walk every time I want&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;7. Understand the nature of my work well&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;8. Watch TV in between&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;9. Meet people a lot&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;10. Always its different never repetitive&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;11. Sometimes&amp;nbsp;I can stretch my back&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;But i guess sitting has caused unseen damages on my body too, still&amp;nbsp;I don't mind such damages and&amp;nbsp;I am thankful to the body for serving me right.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;I have a lot of reverence to every part of my body&lt;/i&gt;..so i don't tend to abuse it and not even "use" it but allow it to express itself..its totally natural..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; It's great... i&amp;nbsp;think the people in&amp;nbsp;my industry&amp;nbsp;have the liberty to adopt most of the points what you have mentioned.....reverence of body is something i think would be unique for us, we have never looked at body in that sense and probably that's why there is an abuse factor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still&amp;nbsp;as you say...some of the affects of this kind of work on body will happen....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Do not expect a prim and crisp body after this many years as there is a natural tear and wear even to the body..But if you accept it gracefully,then the stress of seeing your body deteriorating can be avoided..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;If&amp;nbsp;one does not expect and&amp;nbsp;builds a particular lifestyle..any definite lifestyle will cause stress. Be it a body builder &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;or even a fitness freak but if&amp;nbsp;one just allows things to happen as they happen and makes sure what&amp;nbsp;he does makes sense to&amp;nbsp;him then its all play and no work&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #d9ead3;"&gt;The stress happens when&amp;nbsp;one does something which makes no sense to him..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; That is a wonderful statement...being a part of this moment and doing only what makes sense...that's all ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sure. Give it a conscious try..life can transform itself suddenly..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; ok Swami ji... i will take a leave from you now...Namaste!!!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-3334660140623580624?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/3334660140623580624/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/12/stress-happens-when-one-does-something.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3334660140623580624'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3334660140623580624'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/12/stress-happens-when-one-does-something.html' title='Managing lifestyle Pains and Stress'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-6540623415091765642</id><published>2009-08-22T23:59:00.009+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:17:13.106+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='seeker'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lifestyle for knowing truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='achievements'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='seeking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipline'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='comfort zone'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awareness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='true nature'/><title type='text'>Truth needs no special lifestyle</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Dear Swami ji, from last few days&amp;nbsp;I am confused about basic characteristics/lifestyle requirements for a seeker to receive truth..... I am trying to say that as truth conveyed by you is quite different from the way of world... when is a seeker ready to receive it and live it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;That's a thoughtful question Puneet ! Truth needs no special lifestyle. To realize oneself in any manner, in form of lifestyle, is the easiest. But when we talk about a suitable lifestyle then we get into this trap again. A trap where you create conditions and then try to fulfill them too. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you introduce a new lifestyle in order to realize the Truth, then the introduced lifestyle itself becomes an obstacle. Life gets "organized" itself upon knowing the Truth, but to organize the life in a particular way to know the truth can be misleading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only achievements are planned and achieved. But knowing one Self is no achievement and no planned lifestyle can do that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;When you plan a lifestyle it may improve your style of living but need not bring the awareness of SELF. If it is a particular lifestyle that made people in the past realize their true nature, then it could be so easy. On the contrary the masters from the past seem to have lived such varied lifestyles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I understand that a lifestyle of a certain discipline or characteristics may not bring the understanding of truth but my question is that basic minimum requirements.... yoga talks about certain discipline, Shankara had listed few requirements, few religions like Jainism and Islam have rigid mathematical rules, Buddhism has its own basic requirements... When so many systems have enlisted requirements...so that is why i am asking this question...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;It's a way of waking up a sleeping seeker. It's not the new lifestyle that brings awareness with it. But the change in the lifestyle does it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;When someone got used to a lifestyle for too long then there is a least possibility of "waking" up. It becomes very predictable and Truth slips through the predictability of a lifestyle. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;So when there is a change introduced or brought or forced in, or even happened more naturally (life job transfer, get married etc) the possibility of awareness being triggered about one's strength and weakness is high. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;So the religious masters told the followers to change their lifestyles in order to notice one self. It's about leaving a comfort zone and expose oneself to the trials and tribulations. The idea of pilgrimages also came about this way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So what I understand is that more important than a specific lifestyle or certain discipline is to "not become" dependent on it or caught in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;Very well said. No lifestyle can bring about inner transformation. But certain changes in lifestyles can trigger awareness of the inner SELF.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;I think if the understanding of what is SELF is clear, then the need for such lifestyles and other ideas will drop for ever. Perhaps next time when you come on line we will make it a point to discuss just the same (SELF).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;But do not misunderstand that I advocate no change of lifestyles. In fact lifestyles keep changing all the time for most people. Life keeps changing but awareness happens when you stand apart from changes and observe them. So next time when meet we will get little more closer to this topic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; ok swami ji, Namaste !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-6540623415091765642?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/6540623415091765642/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/truth-needs-no-special-lifestyle.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6540623415091765642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6540623415091765642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/truth-needs-no-special-lifestyle.html' title='Truth needs no special lifestyle'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-6550890016936443370</id><published>2009-08-16T12:50:00.004+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:18:01.683+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vedic mantras'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shiva'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><title type='text'>Shiva represents change</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: Namaste Swami ji !!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;hara hara namah parvati pataye !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;(The above words from master are Sanskrit prayer to Shiva).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I remember your explanation of Shiva as destroyer of anything negative inside&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;Is it ? when was that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I am speaking from &lt;i&gt;(My remembrance of listening to)&lt;/i&gt; Mantra meditation &lt;i&gt;(Audio CD in master's voice containing vedic mantras)&lt;/i&gt;...mahamritunjay mantra&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;ohk ! I don't know if I used the word Negative.. But Shiva represent anything that is destroyed (read *change*)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; yes...maybe these words..you mentioned destroyer of negativity inside ... words could be different&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;If bill gates changed his mind and shut down the charity foundation he runs even that is Shiva.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-6550890016936443370?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/6550890016936443370/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/shiva-represents-change.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6550890016936443370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6550890016936443370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/shiva-represents-change.html' title='Shiva represents change'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-6739292630910109745</id><published>2009-08-11T23:22:00.011+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:36:07.643+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humans and God'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Free Will'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='destiny'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='controlling life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='consciousness'/><title type='text'>Who Causes action - We humans or God</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Namaste Swami ji!I read in your &lt;a href="http://swamiakshara.blogspot.com/"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; "God only make action happen, but does not originate action.". It's interesting...does it mean that an Individual initiates action... how does this statement complement &lt;i&gt;"You are not the controller of your life but you can control such an idea"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;Namaste Puneet! &lt;i&gt;I read in your blog "God only make action happen, but does not originate action. "&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;Are these exactly the words? Can you cut paste them exactly or check again?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Words are exact...but the whole context could be different...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;God cannot discriminate right from wrong. The discrimination faculty belong only to human mind. No doubt, even mind is just a manifestation of same God but these actions are never originated from God but only from human mind. God only make action happen, but does not originate action&lt;/i&gt;.(Copied and pasted)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;ohk&lt;br /&gt;it means that action is backed by god&lt;br /&gt;but the intent behind is human&lt;br /&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; But that would mean that Human's can have a independent intent...how do this and "You are not the controller of your life..." be both true&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;If you wrap a red cloth around the mouth of a torch light it would burn in red color. Though the light burns from inside the torch (God's back up) still the red cloth decides the shade of the light (human intent). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;All the different shades that can be wrapped around the torch light are the various intents but the light remains the same illuminating them all..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So what i understand is that human beings provide different ways of expression or creative manifestation... but the source of it is same&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;Precisely !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-6739292630910109745?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/6739292630910109745/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/humans-and-god.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6739292630910109745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6739292630910109745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/08/humans-and-god.html' title='Who Causes action - We humans or God'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-6906518000852673925</id><published>2009-07-12T23:23:00.012+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:26:34.425+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vital air'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pranic energy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='balancing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tai chi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prana'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awareness'/><title type='text'>Demystifying Prana - Reality and Myths</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Namaste Swamiji!! I started reading this scientist &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich"&gt;Wilhelh Reich &lt;/a&gt;..he developed systems to measure this energy which he called Orgone in 1930's...this looked very similar to what yoga talks of Pranic energy. Swami ji, i wanted to know about Pranic energy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;ell me your understanding of it as of now&lt;br /&gt;or even some experience somewhere&lt;br /&gt;or having met someone&lt;br /&gt;or heard anything&lt;br /&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; My understanding is very basic and i don't think i have any experience...all hearing is from people who teach yoga talking about it. As per my understanding about it, it is a energy prevailing in universe and humans gather it through breating, food etc..It should ideally flow freely in the body if there is some block or lack of balance, then it may cause physical problems in body maybe it is what we call vitality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scientifically if i think about it, it could be the dark energy which scientists are unable to measure in universe but are sure that it exists. Reiki, Chi etc.. talk of same energy but i do not have any observable experience neither i have seen much physical benefits of any yogic exercise or pranayama..though i must admit that i have not been very regular&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt; understand that Puneet !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; What surprises me somewhat is that why Science does not accept it when whole eastern systems are built around it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;t is never in the Vedas though &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;or any older scriptures......though there is a mentioning of pranas a lot in Vedas.......but to make it a exclusive thing is by the new age healers..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So, Prana is not exclusive means it is in combination with something...i am not clear&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Prana is just the vital air sheath. It is one of the five elements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;1. Space&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;2. Air (prana)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;3. Fire (agni)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;4. water (jala)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;5. Earth (pritvi)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; How is this vital air different from normal air we breathe..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Nothing....just that it modifies itself in many ways when it enters the human body as 5 different modes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;1. prana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;2. apana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;3. vyana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;4. udana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;5. samana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;each one with unique function of its own..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So it depends on the way one breathes or some other physiological reason...also i have no idea of what each one represents. Can humans have any possible control over these different modes?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;he control freaks generally like to control everything :). Rather it should be balanced.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;- samana vayu helps digesting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;- apana vayu helps ecacuating whats eaten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;- udhana vayu can circulate blood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;- prana in general sustains life..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;these pranas should function in balance, then its called healthy living. If there is imbalance, then one end up in vomiting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; ok, thats why you mentioned that prana in exclusivity is not all that is important...the balance involves all the modes...You mentioned physical importance of these modes...Is there any other psychological relation of these&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Y&lt;/span&gt;es prana also is the glue that joins body and mind..it influences both body and mind. So when in anger your breathing gets shorter and hotter; then the Yoga Shastra says breath long when you feel anger, then the anger vanishes..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So, our emotions and passions probably disrupt normal breating and that may manifest as a physical condition due to imbalance&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;recisely..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So deep breathing and other kinds of Pranayama can balance the existing imbalances....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;xactly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I understand that, i have other queries...can Prana be transferred from other ways apart from Air&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Then its not called as Prana but just some psychic effects&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; How are they different and are they real or just imaginations&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;If you hear a bad news then it may cause head ache or see someone 'bad' then it may cause headache or discomfort in stomach these are called psychological effects. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The aches are real but the way it is acquired is NOT. So also the new age remedies bring goodness but they are just psychological..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I understand that and i think it pertains to remedies i usually hear like Reiki, Aura healing etc...So apart from Pranayama, what is the right way to balance and live in a way that imbalances do not occur&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;A expanded understanding of life will sustain balance which is easier said than done..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; And what is required to bring this expanded understanding..basically how do i know about the gaps and bridge them&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The gaps are largely between your present and your past and your future if they are bridged, then it all become one WHOLE then you are expanded in understanding..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Are ways like Tai chi helpful in bridging it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Tai Chi helps harmonizing the body and mind due to the graceful movements of the body......and followed awareness on body with rhythmic breathing accompanies &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;but that's just balancing act..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;and nothing to do with some special air coming from Hong Kong harbor and enter into your body and bring all the goodies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;.....Its the New Age Merchants who promote such exclusive ideas about some special pranas (stored only in their custody) which are released at their behest and can heal this world etc..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I undestand that difference now.....also i understand that awareness can bring the extended understanding&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Bravo !!! Grosser the mind greater the choices of finding solutions and subtler the mind, then there is just ONE answer to everything.....and that's why subtler people go into silence.....as if going into silence but the truth is there is nothing much to talk about......and Truth is ONE. We meet up later on again..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Namaste Swami ji!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;N&lt;/span&gt;amaste Puneet !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-6906518000852673925?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/6906518000852673925/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/07/prana-is-glue-that-joins-body-and-mind.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6906518000852673925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/6906518000852673925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/07/prana-is-glue-that-joins-body-and-mind.html' title='Demystifying Prana - Reality and Myths'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-3123878482147280169</id><published>2009-07-12T22:31:00.010+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T00:37:55.828+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game of life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><title type='text'>How to play "The Game of life"</title><content type='html'>HowThe following extract is from an interesting discussion i had with the master on living a spiritual life while being a complete participant in materialistic world&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;One should play the game well and when winning and losing don't matter in that, then one emerges as a winner..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; so what do we mean by playing it well&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;playing it well is simply not getting lost or trapped or hurt or offended or overjoyed oneself..but to remain steady and untouched throughout and till the end..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-3123878482147280169?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/3123878482147280169/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/07/game-of-life.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3123878482147280169'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3123878482147280169'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/07/game-of-life.html' title='How to play &quot;The Game of life&quot;'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-3134615276247073238</id><published>2009-03-19T09:40:00.008+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T01:01:39.145+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pathless Path'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='goal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='destination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><title type='text'>What constitutes a spiritual path</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; My idea is to first know if a path is really needed? As there have been statements like the truth is a pathless path. That makes the whole thing confusing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;Not really confusing ! Because, to arrive to this understanding of Pathless Path you need a path its more of a paradigm shift in understanding which can be grossly described as 'Path".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; From the original thought you had earlier on that spiritual goal is achieved through many paths, then you come to the present understanding that coming is the path actually !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Still I may not agree that you have really come to the pathless land. Because you are 'confused' as you mentioned. Which means you are somewhere on the 'path' still !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I do not believe that i have come on the pathless land and that is why i am dwelling a bit on whatever looks like a different path&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;That dwelling on various ideas from time to time is the path and the journey too&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; but i have this feeling that a serious deep dive into one may be required. And i think different paths are for different kind of individuals and a specific path may work best for one. How can one figure it out&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;First of all do not read the pathless path theory now. Stick to your venture of figuring out the right path. Because the Pathless Path is known only after reaching the destination. Till then the paths DO EXIST. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;And there is no exclusive paths for each individual but paths merge and emerge. Its like when you step out of your home you may walk through a small lane which will connect to a main road, then the main road leads to highway and free way. You would be sometimes taking a bus or train and flight..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I get that. The only difference is that in the case of travel, the destination is known...here it is unknown. So i can not know what i am choosing is taking me anywhere or not&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;There are more differences than what you mentioned here. The destination is 'unknown' only because it is to be achieved in some future point of time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; And the path is sort of map to that destination.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Its both like a map and the actually time and space taken for reaching the goal. The path and journey are inseparable. Never you can travel separately away from the path. Because whatever life has brought you to is the path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Even if the journey is in seemingly diferent directions&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Yes. The conflict in the twisting and turning is in itself the path. Not a pleasant free way but perhaps a choked up gally in Chandni Chowk you can say..still its a path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt; Swami ji, i understand this and that has been my state till now, personally how do i go to a highway now from this choked gully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Going to highway is a sign of more clarity which has happened to you. That is when the confusion about paths and the need to select a path and trying to understand the destination etc. causes the mind to choke and as a result one is stuck up and feel not so much progressed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Agreed swami ji, there is more clarity through the discussions and the quality of life is different due to it... now it is like what next&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;What next is exactly the question that creates the 'path'. From here to what next which means...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;1. Where do I go from here?&lt;br /&gt;2. How do I go ?&lt;br /&gt;3. How long does it take ?&lt;br /&gt;4. Where will reach?&lt;br /&gt;5. How far is it from here?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Swami ji, i am only concerned about "How do i go"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;This thought of going somewhere causes the creation of path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So are you implying that i am already on this "path"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Whatever you have lived till this moment is the path and whatever you are likely to experience further is the path. It is not separable from you, or from your life. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;On your path, at this juncture you are chatting up with me. but you think you are yet to select a path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Everybody is already on the path. They all have come some distance in their lives. Not necessarily in terms of money only as an ordinary mind would mistake.. but&lt;span style="color: #e06666;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;its about intellectual growth and emotional maturity and even physical growth, your psychological understandings too have gone through changes. &lt;u&gt;These changes constitute the path&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I think i am understanding it, whatever be that path...it is very tightly engrained with life itself...not something seperate to be followed as a routine for few moments of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Exactly ! Very well said. So what happens is that you dont scramble to find a path anymore.......and dont even bother to choose between paths (the right and suitable path)........and perhaps you don't bother how to reach the goal too !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt; I think i understand it now, it is not about a specific name of path..it could be anything, a mix or nothing..it is about what growth it is bringing as you mentioned above&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;When you have clearly understood that you are on the path from the moment you were born.....and you have always been traveling and journeying......but just that you were NOT aware and at some juncture you meet up some one who points out this truth about path......and upon being aware of it like how you become aware of it now, then that very moment most of the conflicting and confusing thoughts which have been haunting you drops off.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;As a result of that you suddenly find yourself airlifted from the Chandni Chowk to a free way and you would be journeying more spontaneously and without much struggle or effort and thats the sign that you have come much closer to the goal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; The understanding looks quite simple and yet profound&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-3134615276247073238?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/3134615276247073238/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/03/pathless-path-is-known-only-after.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3134615276247073238'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/3134615276247073238'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/03/pathless-path-is-known-only-after.html' title='What constitutes a spiritual path'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-5135487077521011436</id><published>2009-01-18T15:32:00.015+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-20T22:01:54.826+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ego'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='destiny'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awakening'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='goal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='consciousness'/><title type='text'>Do we control our Life?</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; The place we left last time was tough for me to understand, also when you talked about the "decisions happening in present" !!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Yes ! T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;he so called 'decisions' happen only on the spot. But certainly the universe is not moving in a 'decisive' manner. It is spontaneous and momentary, always new and eternally now. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Meaning the future is not at all prepared by anyone and it is kind of painting happening ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Yes. Its a ongoing process just like a painting. &lt;i&gt;'Its always a completed painting but still in the process'&lt;/i&gt;. This painting has no start or end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So the question arises, if as an individual i am just ignorant that i am taking a decision in present, then what takes it. The issue for me here is that i like it that the future is not &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;pre&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; decided and i do not like it that i am not the ultimate controller of my decisions in present&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;'You' are not the controller of your life but you can possibly control such a belief that you can control your li&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;fe. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Nobody controls anything for that matter but it appears to be that way. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; so are we going towards a collective &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;consciousness&lt;/span&gt; ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Consciousness is always ONE and perhaps 'collective', it is never divided but for our convenience we always divided it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;and then try to call it as the collective consciousness by putting all non existing pieces together.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ok&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, i understand. The consciousness is the painter?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Yes the painter and the painted too and even the canvas and all the colors too&lt;br /&gt;all of them as ONE.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So, the next question becomes tough. If there is no individual divided &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;consciousness&lt;/span&gt;, then why this individual looking life at all?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The individual driven life is apparent and a very important aspect of the creation and it is not substantiated with any truth but only a mirage like.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; The energy force in the humans is this consciousness or something else?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The energy moves and hence it is an expression of the consciousness and consciousness supports not only life BUT ALSO DEATH.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; inorganic matter too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;EVERYTHING IS CONSCIOUSNESS. Including the organic and inorganic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So it is like back to square one for me. Now consciousness is everything, how is this painting unfolding...something i am missing there ??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Unfolding is like a process. Every moment of it alone is real but there is never a sense of beginning and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;'end to this painting any moment is a complete painting already'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; so in that terms nothing to achieve for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;consciousness&lt;/span&gt; ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Exactly ! Achieve from and for what ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, it looks unbelievable today that my individuality does not exist !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;It never existed. B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;ut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;I'm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; sure the picture is yet to be complete for you. I mean there is just little more distance to go towards the right understanding. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;of course&lt;/span&gt; it is not complete for me...the question is how to reach the truth..not intellectually but really !!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;There is nothing wrong with the individuality or the ego. The ego is false only when it does not know its root and try to imagine itself to be independent&lt;br /&gt;of the root called Consciousness or Atman. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;When ego(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;ahamkar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;) is ignorant of consciousness(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;atman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;) then it is a false. But the Truth is when your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;individuality &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;realized that it does not and cannot function by itself, but only with the back up of the hidden and unknown self. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;That realization does not destroy the ego but only modifies your ego little bit which appears like losing the -original- ego and taken some new shape now which is only a addition to ego now unlike before. Earlier on it was only EGO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;-&amp;gt; then the search begins by the ego about some Consciousness &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;-&amp;gt; then EGO is busy trying to remove itself in order to find the CONSCIOUSNESS    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;-&amp;gt; then it also imagines that it has lost the ego totally and found the consciousness fully (many people believe this way and claim themselves to be enlightened and even teach others the same)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;But true realization happens when you (EGO) know that you are not alone but there is some driving force that sustains your life and gives shape to this creation as a whole then without losing the ego or your individuality you simple connect to the underlying force or the Being called Consciousness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then what happens is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;ego + consciousness = awakened you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Ego awakens to the hidden consciousness. In order to awake there has to be a sleeping individual and that individuality is you, then you wake up to the fact&lt;br /&gt;there is something more to you than just what you know now......which means not that you lose what you are now or what you have now but only add the new found thing to you......which as if change the way you presented yourself till then. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;So there is never a loss of individuality in the true spiritual awakening. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I understand it Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Now my question is that is consciousness growing...i mean scientifically it is said that universe is expanding and does few people becoming enlightened contribute to it in any ways?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The expanding of the Universe in a spiritual sense is not like the astronomical expanding. Spiritually speaking, the expansion can be called as 'growth' just the way you grew up these many years, which can also be said as expanded &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;fr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;om &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;point A to B. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;So It is not spatial or even astronomical but the expansion is more of psychological. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; so in that way could this growth be called as goal of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;consciousness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Goal ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; lets say consciousness wanting the whole painting and canvas and colors to be aware and thus in a way we can say Goal ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Never. Consciousness has no goal or even a path&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;to reach that goal. It does not have an agenda.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; my question arose as it is said that humans only have this ability to perhaps understand it and still most die without understanding, why this process then ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;What perhaps is missing in your understanding presently is that the consciousness does not only belong to the 'awakened' ones but also to the ignorant ones too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;In fact Consciousness is both the awakening and the slumbering too. The goal is always the goal and is never to be attained in some distant future. Its always in the attained state.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So too &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;consciousness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;? It does not matter how many get awakened. It is available for both, the difference is in understanding....Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; how to bridge the difference. You mentioned the process briefly above when talking of Ego&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;From the ego point of view it is a process and from consciousness point of view it just IS simply, there is no process for the consciousness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.. i think i understand this Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, can we discuss on the process for the Ego in next chat ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Sure &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Puneet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; ! we will 'proceed' on the 'path'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-5135487077521011436?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/5135487077521011436/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/me-place-we-left-last-time-was-tough.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/5135487077521011436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/5135487077521011436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/me-place-we-left-last-time-was-tough.html' title='Do we control our Life?'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-1518727481279935772</id><published>2009-01-11T15:27:00.024+05:30</published><updated>2010-10-14T01:03:05.977+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='karma'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='seeking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='goal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='existence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='enlightenment'/><title type='text'>What you seek is exactly what IT IS NOW</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Can enlightenment come without ever seeking it ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Basically you should know what is enlightenment first before talking about when it would come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Unless you have an idea how do you know whats coming ? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Or can you tell whats coming is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;enlightenment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; I do not even use the word "Enlightenment" for the same reason as the word would normally confine to a meaning, which in this case is not true. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ji&lt;/span&gt;, in other sense i can say that the end of all seeking is enlightenment or attainment of truth&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;True&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; but there is a definite quality to this end...kindly specify more on it ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;When you know what you seek is exactly what IT IS NOW then the search end now or any moment in the NOW then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; It is said that this end may not be always pleasant, the truth could be horrifying or is it possible that a seeker may not be able to handle it properly?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;On the contrary this end is the most pleasant one its a great relief and perhaps you would breath really free for the first time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;You would see life as it is for the first time &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;You would speak, touch hear as if for the first time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; so any of such beliefs which may bar seeker from IT are really unfounded and maybe coming from past impressions ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Yes from the past impressions which make you imagine about future in a particular way, thus drifting you away from the 'goal' of the here now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;me:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Also it is said that we should not really seek IT as a 'Goal'. There is very genuine question that why would one then one really go for IT ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style="color: #e06666;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;When you stopped going for IT(Enlightenment) you enter BEING&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #cc0000;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="color: #e06666;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;then the being 'becomes' the goal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #cc0000;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So it becomes a living experience is what i understand !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Y&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;es. Every moment, moment by moment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Could it be that some people experience IT in moments and it does not become their being, could it be the start of search into spirituality for some ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;he starting always happens for almost all in the future as a 'future' reality &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;as a distant goal to somehow reach or attain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #666666;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; So is it inbuilt in kind of DNA of humans to reach this 'Goal' or to a few this seeking happens ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The DNA must be playing a truant here too, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;but the DNA of the seeker who would 'attain' does not decide anything by itself, because the DNA itself was built by something else to behave that way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; That is amazing direction then, though i used DNA in a generic way, it usually describes the directions in which a body will go in terms of height, health etc and it is &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;predecided&lt;/span&gt; as you mentioned...but what i get from here is that is the future direction of life of a human is also &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;pre&lt;/span&gt; decided ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Pre&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; decided can be a precarious term because when we say '&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;Pre&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;' then as assume there was a past which decides the future. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;ut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; the past is NOT having existence (it is only a memory) and whatever happens is not based on a decision made by something or someone, but it happens &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;and at the time of its happening, the 'decision' also happens, like some kind of on the spot decision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; At the time of this happening, probability theory would provide alternates in decision making, so the question is that are these alternates available to a normal unenlightened person?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;To the 'unenlightened', the probabilities always exist. He thrives on them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;in fact&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;. He does not realize that it is a illusion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;He wants to believe that there are many options and ways and paths and he thinks he can choose and follow a path decisively as per his plan. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;But his true enlightenment happens only when he wakes up &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;from such a assumed notion or a plain illusory thinking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;me:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; My understanding was that past &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;karmas&lt;/span&gt; or impressions take a person to a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;particular&lt;/span&gt; decision and as an enlightened person is free of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;karmas&lt;/span&gt;, he can take decisions completely in present. But from your answer it looks different. ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Master &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #bf9000;"&gt;Akshara: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;The 'enlightened' is not some special creature endowed with special power as if he conquered the matrix and exited the time space dimensions. B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;ut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; a simple being waking up from the 'beliefs' and 'notions' about a life trapped in time and space.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He would continue to still live under the influence of time and space &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;but deep within he had already gotten over with both time and space. As a result he seems to have the freedom to live life without any doubts and fears &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;and the seemingly inevitable 'urge' to reach somewhere. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-1518727481279935772?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/1518727481279935772/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/questions-to-swami-akshara-1.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/1518727481279935772'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/1518727481279935772'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/questions-to-swami-akshara-1.html' title='What you seek is exactly what IT IS NOW'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001557637253026567.post-4513779116897348190</id><published>2009-01-11T09:48:00.001+05:30</published><updated>2009-01-10T23:21:10.144+05:30</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='god'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swami Akshara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='living master'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='enlightenment'/><title type='text'>About this Blog</title><content type='html'>According to &lt;strong&gt;Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Akshara&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, the ultimate truth(or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;enlightenment&lt;/span&gt; or god attainment or what i call as IT) is अनिर्वचानीयम, a Sanskrit word which literally means 'beyond description'. Different masters from past thousands of years have tried to explain IT and the possible processes of attaining IT in their own words. Those words have been said in a particular language and in a particular context and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;time period&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It becomes extremely difficult for a seeker to understand the subtle meaning&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;of those words in current context and the past masters are not around for clarification of doubts. '&lt;em&gt;Edward De &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Bono&lt;/span&gt;'&lt;/em&gt; makes it clear with an example about Eskimo's who have developed 12 different words for subtle differences between different types of Snow. Now if an Eskimo's writing on snow is to be translated into &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;English&lt;/span&gt;, all 12 words would be translated as snow or ice and their original meaning would be lost to people reading that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the process of understanding IT is much more subtle. We can not read a printed text or listen to a speech and expect to know all about it. There will be many questions whose answers can be obtained only from a living master. And as with any discussion into the unknown, the seeker can not prepare a standard set of questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have got an &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;opportunity&lt;/span&gt; to interact with Living Master Swami &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Akshara&lt;/span&gt; over a chat and this blog will contain my questions and its answers from the master in its true form. This discussion has already started and will continue into the future and as of today, i have no idea about what form and shape it will take. I am simply taking a deep dive into the unknown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://subtlechat.blogspot.com"&gt;Towards Unknown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1001557637253026567-4513779116897348190?l=subtlechat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/feeds/4513779116897348190/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/about-this-blog.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/4513779116897348190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1001557637253026567/posts/default/4513779116897348190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://subtlechat.blogspot.com/2009/01/about-this-blog.html' title='About this Blog'/><author><name>Puneet Banga</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12925099922627842390</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry></feed>
